Latest Reviews, Magista Reviews, Nike Soccer Reviews — July 9, 2014 at 11:35 am

Nike Magista Obra AG Review

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Over the last 20 years or so, Nike has been one of the major innovators in the soccer world when it comes to synthetic uppers and wild designs. In today’s current soccer cleat market, it takes something truly outrageous to get people talking, and Nike has successfully raised the bar once again with the Magista Obra. Featuring a very unique FlyKnit upper construction, along with an equally unusual mid-cut design. Similar design elements can also be found on Nike’s own Superfly 4, letting us know that this style of soccer footwear is something that Nike will most likely be pushing for the next little while. So, since we’re going to have to live with it, how does it actually perform?

Comfort/Fit

The most unique aspect of the Obra is how the boot fits and moves with your foot. The implementation of FlyKnit as the primary upper material really is a game changer when it comes to performance, as well as overall comfort. Since it was originally introduced in 2012, mainly as a primary upper material for running shoes, FlyKnit has been marketed as the only upper material that allowed for a sock-like fit, as well as being able to provide a sock-like level of comfort. Over the last two years, we’ve seen the steady, and dramatic evolution of FlyKnit technology through several different running models, showing the versatility of the technology as it has since been implemented on several different types of footwear, each with its own unique construction.

All of this has led to the Obra, Nike’s first FlyKnit soccer cleat, and honestly, I couldn’t be happier with the final product. Anybody who has tried any FlyKnit running product at this point will most likely agree that it offers a truly sock-like feel, which is great, but also the biggest misconception when it comes to the Magista Obra.

To explain why the Obra isn’t just a sock, we have to talk about what FlyKnit actually is. What FlyKnit is not, is a standard cotton sock, so if that has been your impression of the Obra, forget everything you once thought. FlyKnit is a combination of yarns and different fabrics, engineered in such a way to provide a combination of flexibility, support, structure and comfort, all in a seamless package that is also very lightweight. This is not something that your grandma knits in an afternoon. The construction process is much more complex, and requires very unique machinery to even make it a possibility. The final product is a seamless piece of material, with every square inch being engineered for the best possible performance.

When you break down the essentials of FlyKnit technology, it sounds almost too good to be true, but with the amount of progress Nike has made with this technology over the years, they’re able to achieve some pretty remarkable results.

So, what is the upper like on the Magista Obra? Visually, the upper is very impressive, showing off the complexity of the FlyKnit construction with its unique pattern and variety of colors all coming together as one. The FlyKnit material is tightly knit, with no gaps, spaces or ventilation holes anywhere on the upper, something that is quite different from any of Nike’s running models. Its very easy to see that the upper is composed of several layers of knitted material, with an extra several layers raised off of the upper, giving the Obra its spider web-esque appearance. Running from the base of the shoe, vertically into the lacing system, FlyWire/Brio Cables have been incorporated into the construction of the FlyKnit upper, allowing for further support and stability when you pull the laces tight.

This describes the majority of the upper, which is also covered with clear NikeSkin layer, fused directly over the FlyKnit base, more on that later. The structured composition of the FlyKnit upper along with the NikeSkin covering gives this area of the upper a very solid feel. Yes its flexible, yes it allows for a sock-like level of comfort, but the upper will not stretch, making for a very responsive feel and no lack of lateral stability. If you don’t believe me, check out the slow motion traction test video that I made above.

Like I said, this describes only part of the upper, as there is a second variation of FlyKnit featured on the shoe. Across the top of the foot, where the laces are situated, as well as the entire dynamic fit collar through the ankle, features an elasticated variation of FlyKnit, without a NikeSkin layer over top. Unlike the rest of the upper, these areas of the boot stretch in all directions, which is great for a couple different reasons.

The first reason for the stretchy material is simply to allow you to put the boots on, and of course take them off. While the collar won’t necessarily squeeze your ankle, it still offers a snug fit, and the opening needs to stretch to get your foot inside the boot. Once you get your foot inside, the upper snaps back to its original shape, offering a nice snug fit.

The stretchy area across the top of the foot is key to the sock-like fit of the Obra. The upper is intentionally cut a little tighter, so when you slide your foot into the boot, the middle portion of the upper expands to the exact shape of your foot. This compression style of fit allows the Obra to fit nice and snug across the entire foot without even using the laces. It also allows to the boot to adjust to virtually any foot shape, like a sock. The laces are there simply to allow you to secure your foot on the inside of the boot, and also increase the lateral stability of the boot as it works with the Brio Cables.

Another huge misconception about the Obra is that the upper is made only from FlyKnit, when in fact the boot does feature a line, as well as several other materials inside the boot to allow for optimal comfort and a quality fit. Lining the inside of the boot is a thin, very soft material that makes for a very comfortable feel, without taking away from the natural pliability of the FlyKnit upper. This is something that I honestly was not expecting, but definitely feels great inside the boot.

The heel is lined with a smooth synthetic material, backed by a thin layer of foam. This is there simply to increase the structural integrity of the rear portion of the boot, as well as increase to overall comfort level. To go along with the heel liner, the boot also features a thin, perforated foam insole, similar to that of the Hypervenom Phantom, that does not slide around and provides some decent step-in comfort.

Aside from the FlyKnit upper, the mid-cut design of the Obra is another major point of controversy. Does it feel weird? Does it get in the way? Does it restrict ankle flexibility? All of these are common questions that people want to know about the Obra Dynamic Fit collar design. It certainly is an odd design choice by Nike, but as odd as it looks, it honestly doesn’t feel weird at all. Now I don’t want to say that it didn’t take some getting used too, more on that later, but it certainly didn’t feel unnatural while playing.

Like I mentioned earlier, it fits snug around your ankle and nothing more. It’s not a compression sleeve and there’s no actual structure to the collar, it’s just simply an extension of the boot, and I have to say that it really does work well with the design of the boot. I was worried that it would feel like an unnecessary, an extra gimmick that Nike threw on simply to draw some attention, but it actually feels like it’s supposed to be there. It’s not something that is super noticeable while playing, but you definitely can feel that there is extra material where there normally wouldn’t be anything. This false sense of security/stability from the mid-cut design is partly what Nike is claiming as its main reasoning for the design choice, and to certain extent, you do feel slightly more secure, but at the end of the day, its just extra material.

What I like most about the combination of the FlyKnit upper and mid-cut design is how the boot truly feels like an extension of your body, as opposed to just feeling like another pair of shoes. The upper wraps your foot like a sock, and that sock-like fit runs all the way up your ankle. It’s that sensation of forgetting that your wearing shoes, normally achieved by making the boot extremely light, but Nike has achieved a similar type of experience by way of fit. It really is one of a kind in comparison to every other boot currently on the market, and certainly an experience worth having if you’re curious.

As far as break-in is concerned, the shoes felt pretty snug at first, and it was slightly odd playing in a pair of mid-cut soccer cleats, but all that was normal. What felt off to me was the fit in the heel. Normally with a low-cut soccer cleat, when you pull the top two lace holes tight, it pulls the sides of the boot around the ankle tight as well, helping to lock your heel into the shoe. Since the Obra is a mid-cut, you don’t get that same tight wrap around the sides of the heel when you pull the laces tight. Instead, to achieve proper heel lockdown, Nike implemented an external heel counter, made from plastic, that hugs either side of your heel, helping to keep everything locked in place. That, along with the Dynamic Fit collar is what allows the mid-cut concept to work.

While I did end up having a very comfortable experience with the Obra, there was a slight adjustment period where I was having some slight discomfort in the heel and even some minor slippage. This wasn’t necessarily the fault of the boot, but more so myself adjusting to pressure being applied to certain parts of the heel that I was not used too. I never got any blisters, but I did end up with some minor soreness in my heels after the first two hours session. After further experimenting, I found that tying the laces a little tighter really helped the issue, and after wearing the boots a couple more times, allowing the upper to stretch every slightly, the pressure went away. Once broken-in, the Obra is a very comfortable boot.

When it comes to fit, the Obra, as well as the entire Magista line, is based off of the same X1.1 last as the Hypervenom line. This gives the boot a decent amount of width in the mid-foot and forefoot, with the toe box being a little tighter. The boot will expand in width as much as the central piece of FlyKnit will stretch, which is surprisingly a lot. With that being said, this only makes up the mid-foot portion of the boot, with the forefoot and toe box area not stretching much at all. As long as you don’t have excessively wide feet, or if you fit comfortably into any of Nike’s current high-end models, you’ll have no issues achieving a comfortable fit in the Magista Obra.

In terms of sizing, the Obra runs true to size. I wore my usual size 9US for review, and the fit in the length was a little snug, but that is almost a requirement for the Obra to fit properly. This is not a boot that you want to buy with room to grow. The way the mid-cut design and heel area of the boot works, it is absolutely crucial that the boot has a snug fit length-wise, otherwise heel slippage can become an issue. Pending that you get the right size, you shouldn’t have any issues at all.

Weight

In a size 9US, the Magista Obra AG weighs in at 8.1oz. In comparison to the FG version of the Obra, the AG soleplate and stud pattern adds almost a full ounce to the boot. The weight difference is somewhat noticeable in-hand, but on feet, you won’t notice much of a difference at all. The Obra has the appearance of a more “substantial” style of soccer shoe, but the weight certainly does not reflect that. If you’re interested in getting a pair of Obras, weight should not be the deciding factor, but just know that they aren’t going to weigh you down.

Traction

If you frequently play on Artificial Grass, than the AG version of the Obra is the way to go. Unlike the FG version, the AG soleplate is a little thicker, to better deal with the heat on an outdoor AG field, and the external heel is actually a separate piece that is attached to the soleplate, as opposed to being one piece. Also, the AG stud pattern featured on the Obra is exactly the same as the AG pattern of the Hypervenom Phantom.

With artificial grass, or AG, becoming more and more common nowadays, the type of traction pattern that you use should change too. Just to clarify, AG is the playing surface featuring plastic blades of grass, with rubber pellets scattered throughout, hence the name “artificial grass”. Right now, it is not at all uncommon to see somebody wearing firm ground soccer shoes on artificial grass, but what nobody realizes is that there are so many negatives to doing this. Not only is it potentially dangerous, due to excessive amounts of grip that can be generated from an FG stud pattern on AG that could potentially lead to some pretty severe injuries, but artificial grass will also have a major impact on the durability of your soccer shoes. So much so, that many companies are no longer providing warranties to FG shoes that have been worn on AG. The main reason for the durability issues can be attributed to the abrasiveness of AG, and when using an FG stud pattern on AG you get too much grip, causing your shoes to literally be pushed to the breaking point, generally resulting in premature sole separation. An AG stud pattern is designed to provide the same type of grip on AG that an FG stud pattern would provide on natural grass.

Essentially what an AG stud pattern provides is a great grip and stability on artificial grass, without the clingy sensation that you’ll get when using an FG stud pattern on artificial grass.
The same stud design is used on the Obra as you’ll find on all of Nike’s AG stud patterns, featuring hollowed out, ring shaped studs. The tips of the studs are made from a very firm, but slightly flexible rubber material, allowing for each individual stud to have a small amount of flexibility to it, which is the main reason why you don’t get that dangerous cling when playing on AG. You’ll also notice that the studs themselves are just a little shorter than your average FG stud pattern, allowing for a more stable feel when playing on shallow artificial grass.

I wouldn’t say that the Obra AG stud pattern is any better or worse than the other AG variations from Nike, which certainly isn’t a bad thing. It provides phenomenal grip when pushing off, while still allowing you the freedom to twist and turn when planted, ensuring not only making for great performance, but also making for a much safer playing experience than using FG studs on artificial grass. I know that there is stull plenty of skepticism regarding AG stud patterns, but trust me when I say that they are completely necessary, and once you try one out, you will not be disappointed.

Touch

We’ve covered what FlyKnit is all about when it comes to fit and support, but how does it fair when making touches on the ball? While FlyKnit is very new when it comes to soccer cleats, the actual construction of the Obra upper isn’t too far off from NikeSkin synthetic, found on the Hypervenom Phantom. The difference is that instead of the base layer for the synthetic being made from mesh, the base of the upper is made from FlyKnit, and is then covered with a NikeSkin top layer.

The result is an upper that feels similar to that of the Hypervenom Phantom, but at the same is very different. The FlyKnit featured on the Magista Obra is quite dense and very structured, giving it a much more solid touch than the thinner, more open upper of the Hypervenom Phantom. You must also consider that there is a thin layer of padding lining the inside of the boot, which gives the upper a slightly more cushioned feel than you might expect. The FlyKnit base also features a unique texturing about it, but in terms of that having an impact on touch, I didn’t find that it added to the overall experience. Its technically quite thin, but feels much more solid due to its unique construction and combination of materials.

Covering the majority of the upper is a thin polyurethane layer, fused directly to the FlyKnit, something that Nike calls NikeSkin. The NikeSkin layer not only acts as a protective layer for the FlyKnit upper, but also provides some additional grip on the ball. Its not quite as aggressive in grip or texture as you’ll find from the Hypervenom Phantom, but there’s just enough grip there to give the Obra a much more natural feel for the ball than you might expect.

Just like all of Nike’s other top-end models, ACC (All Conditions Control) is also included as part of the package. ACC is a secretive process that Nike has, which improves the performance of the boot in wet weather, mainly by providing slightly more grip on the ball. Its tough to determine whether or not its an actual feature or simply the placebo effect in action, since you can’t actually see ACC, but I personally can notice a difference between an ACC and non-ACC boot. With all of that being said, it’s a nice feature that I’m glad Nike includes, but it isn’t something that is going to make or break your overall experience with the Obra.

The mid-cut design is also a talking point when it comes to touch. Normally, soccer cleats are cut below the ankle, so to have a shoe cut above the ankle, you expect that extra material to get in the way. Fortunately, the mid-cut design has been very well thought out. The FlyKnit material is perfect for this type of design for the simple fact that it is thin, yet durable, and moves very naturally with your ankle. At no point did I feel like the collar was getting in the way, and in all honesty, you don’t even notice that its there when playing.

While all of this new technology is great to see, the best part of the Obra when it comes to touch is the seamless sensation that it provides. Since there’s no tongue, there are no overlapping materials across the top of the foot, and since the FlyKnit upper is essentially one-piece, it creates the most seamless touch on the ball that I have ever experience. No matter what part of the foot makes contact with the ball, the touch and thickness of the upper is exactly the same, which is by far one of the best aspects of the FlyKnit design.

Shooting

When it comes to striking the ball, the Obras feel great. The upper is thin, yet solid, and that’s really the best way to describe the shooting experience as well. There’s more padding in comparison to something like a Nike Mercurial Vapor, but less padded than a natural leather boot. It’s an interesting middle ground, but it feels really good. There’s a slight grip sensation from the NikeSkin covering, but other than that, the sensation that you get is just very natural.

One could argue that the mid-cut design helps with providing some extra support for the ankle when striking the ball, but for the most part, I would say that this is more the placebo effect as opposed to actual support.

Protection

Protection was a huge talking point when the FlyKnit was first unveiled, and I’m not so sure why. I can understand the reasoning of many people in that Nike marketed the FlyKnit upper of the Obra as “sock-like”, and while that is true to a certain extent, the upper of the Obra is far from a standard pair of socks in both quality and protection.

As I’ve mentioned several times, the FlyKnit upper is very tightly knit and feels surprisingly strong and solid. It’s also made up of several layers and features a padded liner inside the boot as well. All of this makes for an upper that is thin, but at the same time is the most rugged thin upper that I have ever used. Should you get stepped on, you’ll definitely feel it, but will the Obra be more protective than other thin models, such as the Mercurial Vapor 9 or even the Hypervenom Phantom, yes it will.

It must also be said that the mid-cut design provides extra protection that you wouldn’t normally have around the ankle area. It, just like the rest of the upper, is several layers thick, and while it won’t cushion an impact to the ankle, it will certainly prevent a cut, and provide more protection than other shoe in this particular area.

Overall, the mid-cut design, tough FlyKnit upper and external plastic heel counter makes the Obra safer than most, especially if you’re comparing it to other boots in the same 7oz weight range.

Durability

The woven concept scares a lot of people, for the simple fact that people are worried that the upper will essentially unravel or snag, causing major damage to the boot. This is again a misconception with the Obra, either because people aren’t familiar with FlyKnit or just because most have not yet held the Obra in their hands. Once more people get to try out the Obra for themselves, even just seeing them in person will change a lot of opinions when it comes to the structural integrity of the boot.

The FlyKnit upper does not snag, and will not unravel, its very well made. The majority of the upper is also covered in NikeSkin, which not only acts as a protective barrier for the FlyKnit upper, but also makes cleaning the boot much easier than you might expect. Even the areas of the upper that aren’t covered in NikeSkin have held up very well.

For use on artificial grass, the AG Obra is the most durable variation available. It’s fair to be skeptical of the Obra since everything about it is new and never been done before, but trust me when I say that this is a shoe that is built to last. I am confident in saying that the Obra will get you through at least a season’s worth of play, if not much longer should you take good care of them.

The Verdict

It isn’t often that we see a boot that simply does not compare to anything else on the market, or anything in the past for that matter. It really is a gigantic leap in the evolution of the modern soccer cleat, with Nike doing everything they can to push the boundary, as they often do.

It was a matter of time until we saw FlyKnit technology to make its way to the soccer market, but I don’t think anybody expected it in the form of a mid-cut soccer cleat. Visually, it’s unusual, but at the same time very modern, demanding attention, something you’ll get a lot of when wearing these boots.

When it comes to performance, the Magista Obra is equally as impressive. It offers a seamless, truly sock-like level of comfort, tremendous support and stability, and premium feel for the ball. You can tell that the Obra went through tons of testing, because for something so new, everything just feels right, and I honestly just wasn’t expecting that.

Its an all new concept that uses all new materials, and certainly isn’t for everybody, but if the Magista Obra intrigues you, my best advice would be to go for it. They’re very different, but in a good way. It’s boots like this that let me know that soccer cleats, as far as they’ve come over the years, still have a long way to go when it comes to innovation. The Obra is not just a boot, it’s an extension of your body, and that’s the best way to describe it.

Comfort/Fit10 out of 10
Weight8 out of 10
Traction10 out of 10
Touch10 out of 10
Shooting8 out of 10
Protection8 out of 10
Durability8 out of 10
FINAL SCORE62 out of 70 or 89%
Joshua Vujovic (1052 Posts)

My goal is to provide the most detailed, in-depth reviews on all the latest soccer gear. Its very easy to get caught up in all of the hype around the latest soccer equipment, but we're here to point you in the right direction. As a product tester, I always give my honest, unbiased opinion on everything that gets tested, ensuring that you're always getting the most accurate information possible


18 Comments

  1. I am playing in a soccer tournament this week and we are playing on high school football turf fields. the black rubber pellets leave marks along the edge of the soul plate on my magista obra fg cleats. i was wondering if there was some way to get that off. also i was wondering what the best way to clean the flyknit portion of the shoe that isnt covered with nike skin?

  2. Have you heard any news on the superfly 4 ag restocking in stores? I want them so bad!-___-

  3. Josh, do you know why the AG Magista hasn’t gotten the black out treatment? I really like the boot and I want to get it but I can’t see myself wearing the other two color ways I really like the all black. Do you have any info on when they’re going to release it in black or why the haven’t yet?

  4. opus AG review please josh!

  5. Hey Josh. I have a questions about nike magista obra ag. Do you know how to shrink dynamic fit collar, because i want to feel a little bit tighter in my ankles. I have nike magista obra ag for 2 months.

  6. Hey josh, between the obra ag and the opus ag, if I’m looking for a more soft feel, like a leather boot, with more control, which should I take?

  7. I’ve already watched that video and I didn’t really get wich one has a softer feel, leather like. Could you tell me please?

  8. Hi Josh. One thing I considered about this shoes is that does it fit with wide feet ? I used to wear 7 1/2 11pro battle pack, so which size should I choose if it fits my wide feet ?

  9. I got my son Magista Obra cleats in late August, 2014, and the sole is already separating from the upper on his right foot. His Hypervenoms from last year are holding up well but the Magista Obra quality/welding leaves a lot to be desired. Be careful if you buy them.

    • I would contact Nike and make a warranty claim. Generally when something goes wrong prematurely with your shoes, Nike will replace them for you free of charge.

      • Thank you for responding. I contacted Nike customer service and the lady said to go back to the retailer first. Dick’s Sporting Goods stepped up and did a refund. My son used the credit to get Nike Mercurial Superfly CR7 FG (black and white cleats). Hopefully, they will hold up better.

  10. I want to buy the AG Magista or the superfly for my club season this spring I have skinny feet and a but flat footed which boot should I get. Thanks

  11. Hi Josh,
    My home ground is an artifical grass field but all away grounds are natural grass. If I was to get a pair of Magista Obra’s or Superfly IV’s in AG how would they go on Natural Grass? Would I need a pair of FG and AG?

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