Hypervenom Reviews, Latest Reviews, Nike Soccer Reviews — July 31, 2013 at 5:59 pm

Nike Hypervenom Phatal Firm Ground Review

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Nike Hypervenom Phatal Firm Ground Review

It isn’t often that I come across a takedown model that I truly enjoy wearing, but I have to say that the Nike Hypervenom Phatal really surprised me. The shape and soleplate of the Hypervenom Phatal is almost identical to that of the top-end Phantom, making for a fit and feel that you would expect from $200 plus soccer shoe. Perhaps the most noticeable, and main difference between the top end Phantom and the takedown Phatal is the upper. Unlike the NikeSkin upper featured on the Phantom, the Phatal features what Nike calls Mirage Synthetic, an ultra-thin, fused, dual layer synthetic that is arguably the thinnest upper that Nike currently makes. It gives the shoe a very Mercurial-esque vibe, providing that lightweight, barefoot feel. The Mirage synthetic upper is completely smooth, unlike the Phantom and Phelon, with some minor texturing being provided by the perforated, fused internal support cage. The synthetic feels really good when making touches on the ball, but in terms of comfort, it does feel a little bit unnatural against the foot.

Other comfort elements of the boot include an off-centered lacing system, with the laces being pushed towards the lateral side of the boot, allowing for a secure fit without any discomfort. The heel is lined in smooth synthetic leather, which is nicely padded, keeping your heel comfortably locked in place. The removable insole is fairly minimal, with perforations all the way through and a mesh liner on top. Just like the top end Phantom, I ran into some minor issues with insole slippage, bit this is an easy fix with just a dab of glue or a simple insole swap. The soleplate is made from glass nylon, just like the Phantom, providing a very responsive and slightly rigid feel, especially from brand new.

From right out of the box, the Phatal feels a little stiff. Throughout the break-in process, I had some minor issues foot cramping, mainly due to the stiffness of the boot, but after about two to three hours of wear-time, they became a lot more comfortable. The Mirage synthetic upper doesn’t have that natural softness of the NikeSkin synthetic featured on the top-end Phantom, or even the Teijin synthetic featured on the Mercurial Vapor 9 for that matter, but what it does have going for it is that its very flexible. When you pull the laces tight, the entire upper hugs the foot, keeping everything locked in place, but it never feels as if it disappears on your foot, which is the one sign of true comfort. Also keep in mind that the Mirage synthetic upper does not stretch, so the way that the shoe fits from right out of the box, is the way that it will fit for the entire lifespan of the boot.

The Phatal features the exact same X1.1 last as the top end Phantom, making for a very high-quality fit. Through the mid-foot and forefoot area, the Phatal is what I would consider to be average in width, while the toe box is cut a little more narrow. The Hypervenom line has drawn a lot of comparisons to the Mercurial line from Nike and rightfully so. The Phatal does have a tighter fit overall, but is definitely wider than similarly styled models, like the Mercurial Veloce. The Phatal is a boot that is best suited for average to narrow foot types, especially because the upper has very little stretch to it. As far as sizing goes, I wore my usual size 9US for review and the fit in the length was absolutely perfect. The Phatal runs true to size, so if you’re looking to order a pair for yourself, I would strongly recommend going for your normal size for the best possible fit.

Weight

The Hypervenom Phatal weighs in at 7.6oz, which is very lightweight, especially considering that the Phatal is a takedown model! Both in-hand and on feet, the Phatal’s feels nice and light. The secure fit in combination with the lightweight construction makes for that weightless feel when playing, which is great. The Phatal is one of the lightest takedown models currently available, and in all honesty, it’s almost impossible to tell a difference in weight if compared to the top-end Phantom.

Traction

The solepate and stud pattern featured on the Phatal is exactly the same as the top end Phantom. The stud pattern featured on the Hypervenom is geared towards agility, and I can confirm that it really does perform well. Upon comparing the stud pattern to other Nike models, you’ll notice some similarities on the Hypervenom stud pattern to that of the Mercurial Vapor 9. The five main studs featured on the FG stud pattern on the Vapor 9, can also be found in the same spots on the Hypervenom, but in the form of conical studs as opposed to the blades. The layout features three conical studs on both the lateral and medial sides of the forefoot, with one bladed stud at the tip of the toe and one support stud in the middle, while the heel features four conical studs, two on each side.

The thin profile of the conical studs, allows for plenty of ground penetration with every cut, while the conical shape makes for plenty of freedom to twist and pivot when planted. The studs are positioned in all of the main push-off points at the base of the forefoot and toe area, providing optimal traction no matter which direction that you cut. On firm, natural grass playing surfaces, I had no issues at all with slippage. One of my personal favorite elements of the stud pattern is the single bladed stud positioned on an angle at the tip of the toe. It gives you that little bit of extra grip when pushing off, which makes all the difference when making that first step.

The split toe design of the soleplate is one of the new technologies brought forward by the Hypervenom Phantom. The split design is supposed to allow for more articulated flexibility on the forefoot area of the boot, in order to make for a more natural feel, but in all honesty, I didn’t really notice any difference in feel at all. The split is not as dramatic as you might expect, as I couldn’t feel any extra flexibility in the soleplate either in-hand or on feet. With that being said, it doesn’t hurt the feel of the boot, it’s just a feature that doesn’t make as big of an impact as you might expect.

Touch

The Mirage synthetic featured on the Phatal is very impressive, especially for a takedown model. In comparison to the NikeSkin synthetic used on the Phantom, Mirage synthetic is a lot thinner and more rigid, but that’s not necessarily a bad thing. Mirage synthetic is made up of two ultra-thin, fused layers, with a fused, external NikeSkin support frame, making for a feel more similar to the Teijin synthetic found on the top end Mercurial Vapor 9, rather than the Hypervenom Phantom. I would also say that Mirage synthetic is one of the thinnest uppers currently on the market, making for a true barefoot feel. Also unlike NikeSkin, Mirage synthetic is completely smooth and offers nothing in the way of additional grip on the ball, again playing into that barefoot feel.

The upper itself is surprisingly flexible, and moves very well with the bend of your foot. Since it has such a tight fit, it really gives you that one to one responsiveness, allowing you to feel every bit of the ball, while the one-piece upper also allows for a uniform touch across the entire foot. The smooth texturing of the upper makes for a somewhat slick feel on the ball, especially in wet playing conditions, so if you’re not a fan of grippy synthetics, than you’ll love the feel of the Phatal.

For a takedown model, there isn’t much to complain about when it comes to the Phatal. The Mirage synthetic feels like something that could easily be on a top-end model boot, and if compared to other similarly priced synthetic takedown models, like Nike’s own Mercurial Veloce, the Phatal is far superior when it comes to quality.

Shooting

Striking the ball in the Hypervenom Phatal is nothing that you wouldn’t expect from any thin synthetic soccer shoe. The ultra-thin upper lets you feel every bit of the ball, while the smooth finish provides very little additional grip. Considering the lightweight feel of the boot, it still has plenty of rigidity through the mid-foot and forefoot of the sole, making for a very solid impact when striking the ball. Unlike the Mercurial series from Nike, the entire Hypervenom models all feature off-centred lacing systems, making for a fairly large sweet spot, free of any laces or obstructions. If you’re looking for a very clean and responsive striking experience, than you’ll get that from the Phatal.

Protection

If protection is important to you, than the Phatal is not the best choice. The ultra-thin upper provides next to nothing in the way of impact protection, so should you get stepped on, you’ll feel every bit of the blow. The only protective element of the Phatal would be the internal plastic heel counter, and even that isn’t the most solid when it comes to protection. The Phatal is all about providing a true barefoot playing experience, which doesn’t make for an overly protective boot at all.

Durability

For such a lightweight boot, the Phatal actually feels pretty solid. While the upper is very thin, its still well reinforced on both the inside and outside of the boot. The glass nylon soleplate is fairly rigid, making for long lasting responsiveness and eliminating any kind of stud pressure. Throughout testing I did not have any issues at all with sole separation and nothing really jumped out at me as a potential durability concern. The one thing that I can say regarding the upper is that it will scuff fairly easily, but this does not have an impact on the longevity of the boot. The Phatal is a shoe that should easily get you through a season’s worth of play, if not longer should you take good care of them.

Keep in mind that the firm ground version of the Hypervenom Phatal, or any FG shoe for that matter, is designed for use on firm, natural grass playing surfaces only. Using any FG shoe on any type of artificial playing surface will have a major impact on the durability and lifespan of the boot.

The Verdict

I’m always skeptical of takedown models, especially when they retail above $100, but the Phatal really impressed me. If compared to other takedown models in the same price range, it is by far one of the best in terms of overall quality and in my opinion could almost pass as a top-end model. It features several elements that are identical to the top-end Phantom and with the inclusion of the ultra-thin Mirage synthetic upper, it’s hard to deny that the Phatal isn’t an attractive option. The Phatal is comparable in feel to top-end models such as the Adidas F50 adizero and even the Nike Mercurial vapor 9, but at a lesser cost. Is it better, not necessarily, but it comes very close, and is definitely something to consider if you’re on a budget of about $100.

Comfort/Fit9 out of 10
Weight8 out of 10
Traction10 out of 10
Touch8 out of 10
Shooting8 out of 10
Protection6 out of 10
Durability8 out of 10
FINAL SCORE57 out of 70 or 81%
Joshua Vujovic (1051 Posts)

My goal is to provide the most detailed, in-depth reviews on all the latest soccer gear. Its very easy to get caught up in all of the hype around the latest soccer equipment, but we're here to point you in the right direction. As a product tester, I always give my honest, unbiased opinion on everything that gets tested, ensuring that you're always getting the most accurate information possible


53 Comments

  1. Great Review!

    Hey Josh,
    I just wanted to say, your reviews are great, I love how in-depth and honest they are. You cover all the major points a person interested on purchasing a product needs to know, making them feel secure that they know what the product is that they are buying. I also love how you leave great links to many trusted websites with great discount codes.
    With all this being said, recently after watching many of your lovely reviews, i had purchased the Hypervenom Phatal for $70! That was an amazing deal, and it was all thanks to you!
    Cheers, love the new website,
    Bo

  2. Josh is the mirage synthetic almost as soft as nikeskin or is it stiffer

    • You can’t really compare NikeSkin to any other synthetic, just because its so unique. The answer to your question would be no.

  3. Are the studs on the Phatals the same length as the studs on the Phantoms? Are the Phatal studs longer than the studs on the Premiers? Great reviews man!!

    • They’re exactly the same length. The FG studs on the Hypervenoms are slightly longer than what you’ll get on the Premier.

  4. i keep having problems juggling in these shoes, i reckon its the x1.1 last that doesnt let me juggle how i want to

    • I can guarantee you that the shape of the boot is not the issue. You might not be used to the feel of the boot, but juggling is a skill and is not something that is going to be made better of worse by a pair of shoes. Take some time to get used to them, and you should feel more comfortable juggling.

  5. Hey Josh, I love your videos and I am just wondering. Would you recommend these for a cheaper Mecurial Vapor 8 or are they completely different? And if so what would be much like the Vapor 8s?

    • The Phatal is a great shoe no matter what you compare it too. If you’re looking for something with a barefoot feel, the Phatal is a great choice.

  6. I seen that on both of your reviews, you gave the Mercurial Veloce an 8/10 and the Hypervenom Phatal an 8/10 for shooting. Do you prefer one or the other when striking the ball?

  7. Hey Josh,
    I live in Australia and boots over here cost on average an extra 40-50 dollars so i was wondering if you knew of a way for me to get the shoes that even with postage would be less than the extra amount for here.
    Thankyou.

  8. Hypervenom Phatal or Tiempo Legacy???

  9. Hey Josh, you said the legacys are suitable for wide variety of foot types but I have narrow feet. Will they still fit me good or should I go for something else like the Hypervenom Phatals???

  10. josh, would you rather use the nike mercurial vapor 9, or the hypervenom phatal in terms of performance. also which of these boots do u think looks better(just wondering)

  11. josh, do you think that the mirage synthetic can rip if you get stepped on or something just because it is so thin, i mean, its so thin you can even the the internal support cage. also is it true that the print on the shoe(nike logos) come off/peel off after some use. One more thing, my friend has these and he said that their good but he said that the synthetic gets a bit stiff and not as soft as it used to be, after a while (he has had them since they released)

  12. would you say the synthetic on this boot is as thin as the one found in the f50 adizero

  13. does this boot hurt your foot when you shoot the ball really hard

  14. hey josh i was wondering that the soleplate of the boot is really stiff are they gonna get more flexible to the point that if i move my foot the soleplate will move with it easliy once broken in

  15. are the insole removable?

  16. Hey, your probably the only reviewer for soccer gear I actually like to watch, but a quick question. Right now, i have a pair of LZ 2 SL in the black rainbow colorway… however, it is in FG config., and I am playing indoor this summer. I can get a pair of Vapor 9’s or Hypervenom Phatals in the colorways and in the AG config. for the same price. Or for cheaper, I could get the Trequartista III. Which of the 3 will feel more similar to my current predators? Fast response would be great as i need them in 2 weeks. Thanks!

    • None of them are going to feel similar to that of the LZ 2. I the Phatal features a synthetic upper that will be similar in thickness to that of the LZ 2 SL, but it won’t have the extra grip due to the lack of rubber elements.

      • So would the mercurials be the best since they are top end at such a low price? I don’t know if i like the sound of “paper like touch” cause i know that the vapors are kinda sticky on the front. Do the phatals grip at all compared to the phantoms ore would the vapors have more grip?

  17. Hi Josh,
    I was just wondering if your going to make a video about the new neymar colourway of the phatal. It looks quite different all though i may be wrong but i was just wondering.
    Thanks

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  19. Thanks for the advice and for leaving the great sales I just bought nike hypervenom phatal neo lime for 62.99!!! Thanks for you daily sales they helped me a lot to know what I’m buying

  20. Hey josh

    I have played with the hypervenom phatals for about 8 sessions of firm ground training and matches and i am noticing that the studs on the shoes push up a little too much under my foot and its causing real pain. Also i have been getting lots of blisters lately i started wearing nike elite socks but im still getting blisters. Is there a soulution? Is there something wrong with the boot? Should i upgrade to the hypervenom phantom or the magista orbra? Please relp ASAP!

    • Sounds like you’re experiencing some form of stud pressure. Generally this is caused when the ground is a little too hard for the stud pattern that you’re using. Stud pressure is not a common issue with the Hypervenom line, so I wouldn’t necessarily fault the shoes, but more the ground you’re playing on. If your plan is to replace them, something with shorter, less aggressive studs wouldn’t be a bad idea. If you want to fix try and fix the problem, look into getting a new, more cushioned set of insoles and see if that changes anything. It should help.

  21. Is this boot good enough for flat feet people ?!

  22. Hey Josh
    I’m wearing Adidas Predator Absoilion LZ 2 now and It fits my feet perfectly,but it started to torn.So I’m planing to buy a new one.If I got only 3 choices and they are Nike Hypervenom Phatal,Nike Mercurial Veloce 2 and Puma Evopower 2,which should I choose and which will fit like Adidas Predator Absolion LZ 2.Please reply me as quickly as posible.Thank You~

  23. Hey josh, I am trying to figure out, wich soccer cleat i want to buy for either the nike premiers or tiempo legacy as of leather boots and the nike phatals or the veloce 2 as of synthetics so please reply it would help me a lot cuz right now i can get the models colourways on sale.

    • They’re all great shoes, it just depends on whether you’re looking for more of a barefoot feel, or a padded leather feel. The Veloce 2 is in my opinion the best option if you want something thinner, and the Nike Premier is an amazing leather boot if that’s the type pf feel that you’d prefer.

  24. Hey Josh,
    A lot of people have been asking and I would also like to know – Is there a difference in the feel for the ball that the boot provides between the Hypervenom Phatal and the Veloce 2? And also, which one in your opinion is the better Shoe?

    • They’re similar shoes in terms of being thin, but I find the upper of the Veloce 2 to be a little nice and I also feel like they fit a little better. I definitely prefer the Veloce 2 over the Phatal, although they’re both great shoes.

  25. Awesome reviews dude, keep it up. I have just got two questions- i am freekick and penalty taker for my school. I wanted to know whether these shoes are good for fast paced kicks and do they have any effect on the swing of the ball.

    Thanks

  26. Hey Josh, I am not really sure what kind of feel i want since i just started to get in the soccer cleat game and right now i have really good deals on the table and i need your help to pick out the bunch. 2013 Predator lz absolion, the hyps phatals, the premiers and the adidas kaiser for low prices plz respond.

  27. hey losh i would like to know which shoe is better the hypyervenom phatal sg or puma powercat 1 sg (i usually play in soft ground)

  28. Hey Josh I was wondering if I should get the Nike Hypervenom Phatal or the Adidas F50 Adizero micoach 2?

  29. hey josh, great review. I was wondering which boots to get; the phantom or phatal. Specifially for oztag or touch football which is mainly agility. Thanks !

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